Home theater vs. high-end audio
Home theater afficianados go to great lengths adjusting their systems with DSP and microphones while 2-channel enthusiasts plop down the speakers and go. Why the difference?
Home theater vs. high-end audio
so i think a decent DIY 2.1 channel audio system is a happy compromise between stereo and home theater…
We listen to things with a left ear and right ear and we record with a left channel and a right channel. The extra effort to create unnecessary channels that make things sound worse aka home theater is stupid. If it doesn’t sound right with two, then the placement is wrong don’t add more speakers.
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High end music now is basically DVD-A or Bluray-A, which is surround…
I don’t use dsp or even active crossovers in 2 ch audiophile system because in my experience any and every process degrades the low level information. It is the low level information that takes your system from great to magic. That is where the replayed emotion lives.
I think you addressed setup but perhaps missed the implication of room treatment. I am leaving performance on the table by ignoring room treatment. I think it’s hard to bring myself to make changes to a room for sound quality as opposed to aesthetic. Part of it is habit and part is WAF. It is crazy because we’ve agreed this is the man cave and we have no intention of selling the house, but I can’t bring myself to rebuild parts of my house just to carve out better sound.
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What about mono blocks instead of multichannel amps?
I don’t use DSP for either.
In he early 90’s a builder friend built an audio room of 50 k for a 100 k system…not one parallel plane in a 24 ft square room…not everyone just throws some speakers in the corner and call it good.
I have a DSP and took measurements with a mic on my two channel system, it is far better with it that without. Parametric EQ control with a mic and REW is heaven compared to the old days of a graphic EQ and trying to do it by ear 😉
I loved seeing that boss-employee moment. That was nice.
I will still manually trim down the bass peaks.
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Hi,
Are AVR’s good enough to listen to music (stereo).? The reason i am asking this question is i see a huge difference in the quality of the sound ( Music) coming from an AVR and a normal stereo music system. I was expecting much better quality from my Onkyo AVR but it was just ok. Especially the Highs and Mids , the voice clarity is really awesome in the Panasonic stereo music system.( Its rich and full).I feel the same when i hear music in my car which is powered with Pioneer music system.Is the circuit design different or the amplifiers designed in an AVR are primarily for loudness.?.
This question is really bothering me a lot as i though an AVR would suffice the requirement_for both Music and Movie.I am having an Onkyo TX-NR 696 BI-amped to Taga Harmony home theater speakers v606. Do i need to go for a high end AVR for the quality of sound that i am expecting?. Please advice.
Thanks in advance.
I have a home cinema and I have never used room EQ crap etc. Best thing is to do in manually! Never got the setup I want with doing it with room eq, dsp etc.
But I also have a stereo system combined with the surround. Stereo amp (dual mono) with a dedicated power amp input for home cinema use.
‘In a two channel high end audio system you got two speakers, maybe some subs ..’ Interruption. 2:16 ‘And..’ Paul picks up spectacles & drops them on bench then continues exactly where he left off before employee interruption. Audiophiles are scary intense.
I think what Clay meant to say was; why the hell cant two channel audio sound as nice as a two channel Dolby DTS track. That’s the million dollar question. BTW, NO One can like DSP on a High end system, the ones that state otherwise, never tried it 🙂
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Omg! "I love you" super sweet
Sweet crew.
Why did you leave SLO? Love that place!
My dream job : working for Paul in ps audio.
1:49 testing all day long…
Thanks, Paul. After this video, I am beginning to understand why HTh and 2 channel music are so different and, hence, require different systems.
This is high end heresy but I’ve never felt a two channel system provides the ambient sound psychoacoustics. Guess it depends on your end goal. For soundstage purity, 2 channel is the way to go, but I listen to a lot of electronic music and prefer the ambient spaciousness a surround system provides.
First off there is no versus, home cinema clearly has another application and demand need that 2.0
Can you get high end out of home cinema , absolutely! There are tons of multi channel amplifiers that cater really well too 2.0
I used to use dirac/minidsp , I prefer NOT too room correct anymore. My speakers are as follow
Magnepan Tympani I fronts
Magnepan mg2 as center
Magnepan mmgi as sides
Magnepan mmgw are rears ..
I used to correct and it’s a issue it creates with dipole speakers . It tends to nip the midrange a good bit.
In 2.0 it buries most of the higher end systems I owned and own currently hands down. This whole fantasy , that a good home theater setup cannot do good 2.0 . A good pre amp and beast if a multi channel and you get some really good both world results !
Denying that
Is a bunch of ignorance all together, ohh and in case someone wonders about my ears? I have the smaller cousin of the mighty IRS v the rs1b …which I am restoring.
Kappa 9, rsII, Qe, rs4, renaissance 80 love and have them all.
But check out a vid in my channel , it’s a recording made with a phone, but I can tell you I get some ridiculous good sound out my anthem pre with ATI 1807 power amps. Good enough to not even consider just a 2.0 set up anymore.
Note: stereo is played flat and has its own assigned crossovers to cater to the 2.0 aspect of it , and just fronts , I don’t like multi channel music listening
When do the ps audio speakers come ??
Greetings
Paul you are the calmest CEO I know
Having both I know that there is no "accurate" movie soundtrack,foley effects, dialog dubbed in in post, whats important for movies is that excitement, audio hifi is a different mission entirely
I use a Marantz processor for ht and a BAT tube pre amp for stereo in the same system. I just switch the xlr cables that feed the amps between the two
High-End audio tries to be around the reality. HT audio mostly loves to be far beyond the reality.
Yeah, you’ve got to get multi-channel right….to enjoy 5.1 SACD. The OPPO-205 multi-channel bass management function along with a SPL meter puts all speakers in their proper place.
Rogers going home to eat something. I would.
I used to run 5.1 scrapped that and just run 2.1 for movies. better dynamics.
You seem like a nice person . Are you JW ?
In the best case both systems get extensive acoustic treatment. But the treatment required is considerably different for each case. In a full theater one seeks to remove the room and let the system do all the work of creating the audio world, accomplished via complete sound absorption and often room modes are solved via absurd numbers of subwoofers. With a great stereo the room needs to be turned into a beneficial player in the final sound, accomplished in targeted and balanced absorption, targeted use of diffusion and, unfortunately, capitulation on solving the room mode (also known as purchasing bass ‘traps’, which don’t….
Why does everything have to be compared 🥱dumb question
In my Home Theatre setup – I have one speaker setup in the ‘BATHROOM’
overall and under-all It enhances the experience…!!!
Love the guy coming in for the cameo!
That is a great question. I do those things. Hahaha
What a butt-itching things if doing DSP these and DSP the. . . Be directed
Wow what a work culture Paul has helped create!
Love your videos, no adds and no intro. Straight to the point 👍. 2 stereo speakers are best for music listeners and surround sound system is best for movies.
Employees saying ; ‘Love you’………..now that is a great team.
Guy walks like a robot 1:45
This guy just talks and talks BS just to listen to himself. Blah, Blah, Blah. Get to the fucken point and move on dude!
I don’t give a hoot about multi channel home theatre soundtracks and sound in movies . I simply listen to them via my 2 channel Hi Fi set up and am more than happy with the results i get . I am a now retired ex Cinema Projectionist who worked in the industry for nearly 50 + years and always regarded stereo sound movie soundtracks as a gimmick . No matter if it was Dolby Digital , DTS , SDDS or 4 – 6 track magnetic sound .
I have tried multi-channel home theater and DSP. I always keep going back to stereo, even for TV and movies. I just seems to sound more real to me.
roger seems like a good guy. i’m going to tell my boss I love her tomorrow….
Paul, that was an amazing interaction. It sure felt to be a true, 100% genuine, exchange. Bravo for building a true TEAM and great work environment.